During the Splash 2016 Conference in Amsterdam, Tijs van der Storm conducted a number of video interviews, one of which with Andy Ko from the University of Washington. They talk about the latest research by Andy Ko which is on the 'human view' on programming languages. Most research has always been done on the technical aspects of programming languages as opposed to the human aspects, such as struggling to express what you want or the sense of control or power over the PL. They also talk about the importance of user interface, user experience and about programmer experience to conclude with the latest developments in programming languages.